Black goth here. I've had to deal with plenty of "scene" racism but to be fair, it's not any worse than the regular racism I get from white ppl outside the scene! *uncomfortable trailing laughter* No seriously goths engage in a lot of cultural appropriation, including your faves.
Also, “Strange Fruit” may have been made famous by a Black woman (Billie Holiday) but it was written by a white Jewish man.
Still, he wrote it as a poem in protest of lynchings in the South. He was an American taking a stand at a time long before the civil rights movement of the 1960s had made a space for discussing any racial issues, no matter how blatantly wrong.
He was a Jewish Communist born to Russian Immigrant parents in the 1930s, when he wrote this song, so he has some empathy with people being persecuted. He was actually called before a federal investigative committee who questioned him about writing the song to undermine the American government. (So was Holiday.)
also just a random thought the videos for Dominion and Lucretia by Sisters of Mercy are kinda edging on racist. I.e they use poor people of colour as props and background scenery in both those videos.
Man, I took a long LONG time to answer this because it touches on something I think about a lot. Sorry, afabulousgenderqueer.
There are three prominent types of racism in the Goth Community:
(1)The borderline culturally inclusive/culturally yoinking-from (2) The “Hey I like minorities! I am one as a Goth AND kinky person DID I TELL YOU HOW OPPRESSED I AM AS AN ATHIEST?!” (3) The old fashioned, steadfast and putrid, “but Goth is fer white ppl”
I saw your post on fashion, and in spite of your advice to avoid certain inspiration pages, I have to say that you just gave candy to a diabetic. Good, healthy examples for inspiration will be Sarah Palin, or any female modern country singer. Tiny shorts and hot weather. You couldnt get any classier. Only if you get a pearl necklace, then yes, classier and classier.
You’re certainly right to specify “modern” country singers. Old country artists used to wear a lot of black and sing about really depressing shit.
But now they sing about how COUNTRY they are and scream in designer clothing from their hydrolic hemi quad cab at you to stop judging their old fashioned values with your pricey latte, your school-learning, and your fancy bicycle.
Will you PLEASE leave these simple country folk alone?!
If the camera "adds ten pounds" to peoples bodies then why does it deflate post-punk hair? Can't it be consistent? Have you been meddling with cameras so that they make fluff look less fluffy?
Even if I did know how to install a virus which would modify floofy hair images on any camera connected to the internet, how could I be sure enough people would install their third update that day *without* reading the 6 page single-spaced, one-paragraph user agreement with one line consenting to download the virus?
I recently bought a decent amount of clothes while in a dark yet a smidge colorful fashionista mindset and I'm afraid I didn't think much on how it'll display my personality. Do you have any advice for someone who wants to keep their look classy, simple, and with a touch of color yet still show as goth? I feel like if I'm just goth through music choice and aesthetic/art then I'm losing a part of myself. I have no talent in accessories and don't know how to go back to looking like a femme fatale.
All of them. All the accessories. All the accessories you can accessorize are potential Gothic paraphernalia. For example; Etsy.
Then my grudge lies with the script writers and the makeup department, yes?
The scriptwriters and *I strongly suspect* Universal Studios management.
However, a big influence on horror directors at the time, was the World War they had just lived through.
This was especially true of Frankenstein director, James Whale, who was not only veteran of WWI, but had been a prisoner of war and suffered from PTSD for the rest of his life. Prior to Frankenstein, he had directed All Quiet on the Western Front, Hell’s Angels, and Waterloo Bridge - all centered around the horrors of World War I.
Whale had a vision of haunting the public with the corpses left on the battlefield. (I can’t find the quote to that effect!!) I think the direction he and makeup artist Jack Pierce took was to make the monster a helpless corpse both killing and being hunted for reasons beyond it’s control.
So, even though the specific decision to keep the monster silent was made before Whale was even assigned the project; I think he certainly did see the film as his own creative expression inspired by the wonderful novel NOT based on it.
In any case, you can certainly sleep well at night as a Boris Karloff fan. I think Mary Shelley would have like him, had they a Timelord to introduce them. He was a very kind, generous, and superbly gentle person. :-D
**Bela Lugosi, Claude Rains, Fritz Lang, and Buster Keaton were also WWI veterans**
Confession: I will always hold a slight grudge against Boris Karloff for portraying such an inaccurate version of the creature, and for making said portrayal the image that pops into everyone's mind when they hear the name Frankenstein.
The decision to cut the monster’s dialogue was made before the part was cast. *Supposedly* that’s why Bela Lugosi turned the role down. The decision was even made before James Whale was assigned as the film’s director.
You have to remember Frankenstein is among one the first ever “tallkies”, or films with both audio and video, so movies were still FAR from being dialogue-driven. They were still shot like silent films and had long single-take action shots or panoramas punctuated with brief clumps of dialogue. (You can really tell with Dracula.)
Perhaps that’s why the studio felt the creature shouldn’t speak? Or, since movies in general and horror movies especially were considered low-brow art by the general public in the states at the time; maybe the studio thought audiences wouldn’t sit for long eloquent speeches?
I’m not sure who made that decision or why, but it certainly was not Boris Karloff; an excellent speaker with a wonderful voice. (He narrated The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.)
He’s evil for inspiring Goths years after his death. Maybe he had not control over that either, OR MAYBE NOT!